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#1 Ben Johnson

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Posted 23 February 2017 - 06:33 AM

"For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt."  -- Hebrews 6: 4-6, ESV.

 

   How does the Church handle these verses?  Are the verses saying that anyone who falls away cannot repent no matter how hard the person tries, or does "impossible" mean that it is very difficult.  For example, I might say that it is impossible to climb Mt. Everest, although some have done so.



#2 Rdr Andreas

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Posted 23 February 2017 - 10:37 AM

St John Chrysostom has this: http://www.newadvent...hers/240209.htm

 

In short, it means 'no second baptism', not 'no repentance'. Clearly, it cannot mean that sins committed after baptism cannot be repented of.
 



#3 Lakis Papas

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Posted 23 February 2017 - 09:20 PM

We must take into account the sentences before and after.
The meaning is that the entrance into the Church is not a repeating process.

#4 Rdr Andreas

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Posted 23 February 2017 - 09:52 PM

Just so: context is everything.



#5 Kosta

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Posted 24 February 2017 - 04:12 AM

In the early church especially in Carthage this was taken seriously and literally for a severe sin culminating in the controversy over the lapsed during persecution, that is when it came to apostasy. In Rome, leniency against the above mentioned scriptures created the Novatian schism. In Carthage for a short time it became common for the lapsed who wanted to return to the Church to get a libelli certificate from a martyr or the Christians who prefered torture and prison rather than deny Christ. These imprisoned Christians issued certificates to lapsed christians as letter of recommendations to re-admit the lapsed. The martyrs assured they would intercede for them and pray for them. These libelli certificates have also been Rome's reasoning for issuing letters of indulgence in the 14th century.
In the Shepherd of Hermas it says that a Christian should forgive the believing unfaithful spouse but not many times because there is only given one repentance to the servants of God not many.




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