Is it a sin to be fat?
Posted 14 March 2011 - 09:55 PM
Posted 14 March 2011 - 10:11 PM
Personally I would say one should not worry about being overweight, worry about what sins are being committed if overeating be one of them one ought to try tackle it along with all the other sins if not do not worry about being overweight.
Posted 15 March 2011 - 01:27 AM
Christina, what is your understanding of this issue? It is something that I have not thought about, personally. I am not overweight at all, btw.
Posted 15 March 2011 - 01:52 AM
St. Olaf of Norway as also known as Olaf the fat. G. K Chesterton wrote that we need more fat saints.
Gluttony is a sin. If one is gluttonous, one side effect is often being overweight. But it is possible to be gluttonous and not be fat. It is not one's physical condition that is a sin, but how one got to where they are.
At one point the actor/comedian Jerry Lewis was looking very obese. It was from the steroids he was prescribed for his medical condition at the time, not from over indulging. I know of some very big people who have very big hearts and are better Christians than I am. If they eat a bit too much, who am I to judge for the many sins I have?
We all have our weaknesses. We are not to glory in them other than to know that God's strength is made perfect in weakness, when we allow our weakness to make us look to God for His strength. We all have crosses to bear. Better to help each other and bear each other up than to beat each other with them and drag each other down.
Posted 15 March 2011 - 01:56 AM
Could you elaborate Christina M. about that person's viewpoint about this issue?
If "that person" wishes to express his/her feelings, they will do so. It would be bad form for anyone to speak for him/her. If you have comments or questions on the question of whether or not and if so how or how not being overweight is a sin, then by all means share your ideas, however, let us allow those who wish to remain out of the discussion to do so.
Fr David Moser
Posted 15 March 2011 - 02:06 AM
As far as past discussions, well, I am brand new here with only a few posts so how I am to know that there are/were past threads about this topic except that somebody may or may not have made an off handed comment about the issue? That leaves very little information about what happened in the past, if anything.
Yowza. The tone of the responses makes me scratch my head.
Posted 15 March 2011 - 02:12 AM
If I am overweight then perhaps I am unable to do as many prostrations (example) as I could if I was leaner ... by omission to this fact I am not able to participate as actively for example and not "meet the mark" that ordinarily we are invited to be part of.
I am not saying this is the case for all over weight people I am merely trying to demonstrate a point that being overweight can be "sinful" in a non-legalistic sense but not something that is without compassion by God.
... I wanted to add. I think that sins by omission are not necessarily things that we should stress out over or have anxiety attacks either they are merely opportunities to confess the reality of the situation and leave the rest in Gods hands; observations we can make in confession to God about ourselves good or bad.
Edited by Father David Moser, 15 March 2011 - 02:51 AM.
Posted 15 March 2011 - 03:31 AM
We are not obedient to the Lord when He tells us not to burden our hearts with food and drink and the cares of this world. We burden our bodies and our souls. Food and drink burden the body when we eat and drink more than we need. Our bodies must work to digest all that food,m and so they are burdened. And if we also burden ourselves with thoughts, then the stress is doubled and so is our suffering.
Whether one is fat or thin, if we eat more than we need, then we are not obedient to God (and is this not a sin) and we create more suffering for ourselves. I suspect that most of us (yes, me too) who live in 1st (or even 2nd) world nations (US, England, Germany, Russia, etc) tend to eat more than we need without even thinking (or perhaps even thinking that we are not eating much at all). Something to consider - especially now during the fast.
Fr David Moser
Posted 15 March 2011 - 03:50 AM
As Father David pointed out, it will be more profitable for us here to concentrate on the overdoing certain things such as food, which are dangerous for us physically and spiritually.
There was an article published recently saying how the Last Supper portions are super-sized. And portion size is very important as we know esp. because modern life does not allow the physical activity that was normal during the time when Christ was here.
Posted 15 March 2011 - 05:49 AM
Whilst we're on sayings, and it's a little off topic, is if we ever complain about our priest we should remember that "you get the priest you deserve."
Posted 15 March 2011 - 06:06 AM
Posted 15 March 2011 - 06:12 AM
Posted 15 March 2011 - 11:51 AM
Is it a sin to be fat? Well, if I touch a hot stove and burn myself, is it a sin to have a burn on my finger? Is it a sin to have cancer? Is a symptom of sin the same thing as the sin? Particularly since a "symptom" can have more than one cause, sometimes not sin-related? There are certainly people out there that believe if you are suffering, it is because you need to be punished for something you did. My son (which whom I am not always well-pleased) has a bumper sticker that says "Stupidity should hurt". Unfortunately it often hurts those other than the "stupid" person.
Obesity is a problem. It kills people, it drives up health costs. But hating or being dissatisfied with "fat" people is not going to solve the problem. Obesity is not the sin, it is only a symptom of sin. I think it fair to say that there is a lot more to being overweight than merely eating too much. People who say otherwise should probably talk less. I am very dissatisfied with such people.
Do we have some sort of God-given right to be "dissatisfied" with people who do not live up to our standards for whatever reason?
Herman the "things are not always simple but I wish they were" Pooh
Posted 15 March 2011 - 12:58 PM
Posted 15 March 2011 - 01:08 PM
In any case, the question I think is more along the lines of what Herman asked: "Is a symptom of sin the same thing as the sin?" This is a very good question I think for it affects how we deal with things.
In Christ- Fr Raphael
Posted 15 March 2011 - 01:35 PM
I remember hearing a saying (Russian I think): "never trust a thin priest." The point being, if he's a good priest, he'll visit his people a lot and they will love him and give him a meal at every house. If he's not a good priest, people won't feed him so much!
This is actually a saying that I have used in the past in a humorous context with some of my parishioners. It goes something like: "Never trust a fat abbot (because he's not fasting) and never trust a skinny parish priest (because his people don't feed him)" But it has backfired on me. Recently I was visiting a parishioner, I'd just stopped by for a couple of minutes and had to get going. When I was offered something to eat, I demurred saying I was getting to fat and is was quickly reminded that I had to eat so that everyone would know how much my parish loved me... So much for excuses.
Posted 15 March 2011 - 03:28 PM
I remember a Catholic priest who confided in me about his weight. He went to doctors for years, had medicine and surgeries. Finally, he was able to maintain to about 100 pounds over weight, but how miserable he was because of the jugement he felt from his brother priests and even parishioners. He is a kind and wonderful man. We really must be careful with our words, and our thoughts too, because they affect people so profoundly.
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