I'm starting to get tired for the day Anna, but in your post above it looks to me like you have taken more than one of my posts and cut and pasted them to make one block quote to say what I didn't say . . . and then you protest this.
Here is what I wrote (and it is different than what you are showing in the block quote of your post):
To speak of "The Protestants" or to speak of something that is called a "Protestant Church" is nutty. It:
-- causes confusion / gets in the way
-- is a careless way of discussing
-- is uniformed
-- is to operate from a place of ignorance and it breeds ignorance
As Ryan has said, to use the term protestant just gets in the way of serious discussion.
The great majority of the time, the way I see the term protestant used here is in order to dismiss, or reject, or vilify and this most of the time by folks who do not even have a survey level knowledge of what they speak about.
I guess this makes sense. People who don't know what they are talking about need a broad term to hide behind and hide the fact that when pressed only a mish-mash or an incomplete answer can be offered instead of accurate and substantive content.
So the term protestant can be a punching bag and a security blanket. But, it is not a meaningful term to be used anymore for "serious" discussion.
I guess this kind of thing goes on in all faith traditions and denominations. I have been in groups where the Catholics bash the Baptists and call them Bap'teests and don't have the faintest idea what they are talking about . . . I've been in groups where the independent Baptists (especially 'trail of blood' and 'sword of the lord' types who think they are the only one's who make up the Bride of Christ) will bash just about everyone else, even though they don't have a clue what they are talking about . . . now I am in an Orthodox group who likes to hold up "The Protestants" and teach everyone what "they" believe and . . . okay that's enough.
I think from now on I will start challenging the mish-mash and rhetoric on this forum as it relates to this imaginary PC or Protestant Church when it comes up in the threads. It has always surprised me how often non-Orthodox Christian groups are brought up here on the patristic and monastic Orthodox website. There are a lot of 'converts' here, actually I think it is the converts who want to keep brining it up more than the cradle Orthodox. Actually, come to think of it, many of the cradle Orthodox here openly admit that they don't know much about the non-Orthodox Christians and they do not try to pretend like they do. There are a few that do, but come to think of it most cradles are humble and do not do this here. Maybe the "converts" keep bringing it up to reassure themselves or distance or continually disassociate themselves from their former denominations.
I think you speak of the PC more than anyone here Anna. Do you really think there is such a thing as The Protestant Church? Like there is some sort of unified group that is in communion with each other and is in agreement on the important things?
If you do really think this (and you are not just using them as a punching bag or something else) . . . then possibly you can talk about the beliefs of The Protestant Church in terms of things like their doctrine of soteriology and other key aspects of their theology.
What is the soteriology of the PC Anna?
PS We can talk about the Ecclesiology of the Protestant Church next and go from there. Maybe I will be perusaded that there really is a Protetant Church out there just like there is an Orthodox Church or a Catholic Church.
Edited by Rick H., 07 January 2012 - 04:09 AM.