" Like the sun which shines on all alike, vainglory beams on every occupation. What I mean is this: I fast, and turn vainglorious. I stop fasting so that I will draw no attention to myself, and I become vainglorious over my prudence. I dress well or badly, and am vainglorious in either case. I talk or I remain silent, and each time I am defeated. No matter how I shed this prickly thing, a spike remains to stand up against me."
She responded that she doesn't really even know how to respond to that, but that it reminds of Luther (she wasn't sure if it was Luther or not) saying something to the effect of, "you cannot do good for its own sake." She proceeded to ask, if all things are vainglorious then can one just say that vainglory is not bad? The answer seems to simply be, of course it's still bad. But why is it bad?
I'm going to try to not ramble much, but I know the Ladder of Divine Ascent has each step that is foundation for the next step. In which, one cannot progress to the third step without first overcoming the first two steps. The vainglory chapter is much higher up the ladder, so is it just something out of reach for some us, at least in our current state of life? And if so, is it something we should just not think about? If it's something we shouldn't think about then maybe it really isn't all that bad? I can't really accept the notion that it's not bad, but is it something we will be held accountable for during Judgement?