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does 1 Samuel 28:7-19 contradict the communion of the saints


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#1 Tony Jiang

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 08:02 PM

This line has been bothering me for a while, does that line from the first book of Samuel when King Saul tried to contact prophet Samuel from the dead, say that its wrong to speak to departed saints, and that we should not try to bother them

#2 Herman Blaydoe

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 08:19 PM

This is rather straightforward actually. Firstly this all happened before Christ and the harrowing of hades when the gates of hell were broken. Samuel is "a spirit ascending out of the earth" called forth by a medium. Samuel is still a "prisoner" of hell.

Secondly, this is not remotely like what we do when we address the saints in prayer. We do not "conjure", we do not work through mediums. Even as the Apostles Peter, James and John saw our Lord conversing with Moses and Elijah on the mountain during His Transfiguration.

It is in this spirit that Abba Anthony asked Christ to send Moses to him to explain a particular part of the Old Testament that he was having trouble comprehending. After Christ's Incarnation and Resurrection, the world is a different place than it was.

#3 Tony Jiang

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 09:10 PM

ah okay know i understand




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