Then, people around you will notice that you have changed. That you are a different person, a different type of person than you were before. And in some, they will want what you have. This AND ONLY THIS is the proof.
Owen, your comments are a little demeaning.
You said above (post 141), “Why don't you take your anti-Orthodox rants elsewhere and patronizing attitudes elsewhere”; and yet you claim alone to have found “the only valid argument”!
The evidence for your arguments are that, “people around you will notice that you have changed. That you are a different person, a different type of person than you were before. …This AND ONLY THIS is the proof.”
This 'Tu Quoque' shows to me that your faith rests on very little evidence. The lack of this evidence has been the major factor for me to deny the authority of the Orthodox Church. There is no ‘evidence’ based on the personal attacks I and others have received. Do you (and others) really need to tread down the heads of your guests in order to elevate yourselves? For instance, you say: “I cannot believe someone here claims that we should not celebrate Christmas because of "the taint of pagans;" and “it is a fool's errand to try to get God "back into history." So patronizing and demeaning…, and yet you said this just before you climbed up to your sermon tower!
Once upon your soap-box you seem to have lost yourself. You not only take on another personality; you then seek ways to agree with the premises already made (while still condemning them). You then start talking to an imaginary person who might object to your argument. You have shown for yourself that Orthodoxy is somewhat of a private therapy; “Orthodoxy, demonstrably, is the only treatment center for the rehab of the soul.”
I don’t think you have understood the subject matter above. IMO I can see that you have read very little of the fathers mentioned. Please do not be so quick to answer things you know little about, and please refrain from being demeaning to your guests.
Edited by Steve Roche, 26 September 2012 - 10:36 PM.