John 17:20-21 - an analogy of Father and Son, is it just?
Posted 05 November 2012 - 11:59 PM
Ηow is the phrase "they all may be one" an analogy of the phrase "as Thou Father [art] in me, and I in Thee"?
And then how is this analogy connected to the phrase: "they also in us may be one". Is this an exceeding analogy?
Father and Son are not just related persons, they are one by nature.
What is the meaning of the word "one" in the phrase "that they all may be one"?
Posted 06 November 2012 - 02:30 AM
Posted 06 November 2012 - 08:05 AM
Posted 06 November 2012 - 10:38 AM
I understand that Church is the One Body of Christ but I fail to associate this unity to Father-Son union.
I don't intend to cavil, but I find the correspondence of "be one" of Church to "be one" of Father-Son quite enigmatic. If this analogy was not presented by the Lord I think that it would be considered overweening.
Edited by Olga, 06 November 2012 - 10:45 AM.
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 12:39 PM
Be ye therefore perfect, even as [‘like’] your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
How can this be? Only to the extent possible to men. But by perfect, τελειοι, is meant accomplished. What is it possible for men to accomplish? Theosis: to be God-like by grace though not by nature.
Likewise with John 17:20-21, men are called to be one united by love like the Persons of the Trinity are one united by love for ‘God is love’. Not the same as (that would be by nature) but like (by grace).
Posted 06 November 2012 - 04:43 PM
Above is from " THE EXPLATION OF THE HOLY GOSPEL ACCORDING TO JOHN
I hope it is of some help
Edited by Olga, 06 November 2012 - 09:30 PM.
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Posted 07 November 2012 - 06:38 AM
and each other.
There is a spiritual unity. We are taught in the scripture to refrain from eating the blood of animals because the life of the animal is in the blood. It is believed we become more animalistic and carnal, but partaking in the blood of Christ we become more Christ-like we receive life more abundantly. Theosis, St Athanasios taught is nothing less than God became man so man can become God.
The final consummation of the bride with the bridegroom, where we become one in Him is in the second coming as revealed in the services of holy Week when we enter into the bridal chamber
Posted 07 November 2012 - 04:16 PM
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