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Gideon
10-03-2003, 01:37 PM
I have recently ordered "The Orthodox New Testament" published by Holy Apostles Convent, Dormition Skete just wondering if this is a good start for someone new to the study of Orthodoxy?

Donald Wescott
10-03-2003, 04:17 PM
Gideon.
First let me say that I am not familiar with the text to which you are referring. I would personally recommend the Orthodox Study Bible from Concilliar Press

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/conciliarpress/becor.html

Also of great worth is The Bible and The Holy Fathers for Orthodox which can be ordered through Amazon,let us know what you think of the bible that you ordered once you've received it and had a chance to check it out.

Gideon
10-03-2003, 04:42 PM
Here's a link to amazon.ca, I placed it on order a few days ago. After reading mixed reviews about the Orthodox Study Bible I decided to order this two volume set.

http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/0944359175/702-4925959-3620057

Richard Leigh
10-03-2003, 07:08 PM
Good Gideon,

I have been enjoying the Orthodox NT for a few years now and find it excellent. Its specific strengths are its translation of the tenses and particular care to the Greek concept of "energy", and it has excellent study notes of two types: Good patristic references, and good linguistic explanations.

Richard

Fr Averky
11-03-2003, 12:04 AM
I would go with the Orthodox New Testament from Holy Apostles, because although well-intended, the Orthodox Study Bible was prepared by very recent converts from Protestantism, and the notes have a rather Protestant feel about them, which is fine if you are not Orthodox.

John Curtis Dunn
09-05-2003, 04:12 AM
I use my copies of the Orthodox New Testament quite frequently. My primary complaint would be that it fails to capture certain English nuances found within the KJV (which is also absent from the plethoria of modern Protestant Bibles and the St. Joseph Catholic translation). The KJV is in my opinion the best in English Language, though the Orthodox New Testament excells it where it clarifies certain nuances in the Greek which are not translated into the English language.

I would recommend the ONT, even though it is a hefty price for a Bible compared to the general marketing of Bibles. However, the notes of the ONT are quite helpful and much better suited to give an Orthodox comprehension of the Holy Scriptures than the Conciliar Press's edition of the KJV/NKJV.

john

Br Paul Zimmerman
09-05-2003, 04:42 AM
John,

Try the New Revised Standard Version-Catholic Edition

Richard Leigh
09-05-2003, 04:50 AM
Br. Paul,

There is no comparison. The RSVCE cannot touch the linguistic nuances of the Greek for clarity to the Orthodox mind,even if the English of ONT has to be a bit stillted to do so.

Richard

Br Paul Zimmerman
09-05-2003, 04:57 AM
Richard,

Well, you read what you feel comfortable with.

I do.
Br Paul

Fr Averky
10-05-2003, 04:16 AM
Dear All,

Although specifically organized by the Dutch Reformed Church, but translated by a group of scholars, and not having had any input by either Roman Catholic or Orthodox scholars, I find that the first New International Version is very good for my own personal use. Of course, the Orthodox Christian has to read it with an eye towards those words and sections whichhave been changed.

Father Averky

Richard Leigh
10-05-2003, 10:51 PM
Dear All,

Meaning no offense, to Fr. A, Br. P, or anyone else, Gideon had asked if the Orthodox New Testament would be a good start for someone new to the study of Orthodoxy, meaning, I took it, a good Bible to use in one's study of Orthodoxy. He wasn't asking for a translation to feel comfortable with, and, new to the study of Orthodoxy could well include not having the eye to what has been changed (from what?) in the modern translation of Dutch Reformed.

If you would go to the following web site:

http://orlapubs.com/AR/R142.html#paradigms

you will see why, first of all, any nuance changes from the KJV one would find in the ONT are corrections, and second of all, why no "western oriented" translation can glean the koine-Greek apostolic Orthodox mind set (phronema?).

Thus, the only answer to Gideon's question can be "yes."

Respectfully,

Richard

Fr Averky
11-05-2003, 03:07 AM
Dear Richard,

Thank you so much for the clarification. You are right, my answer was personal, and did not address the question as posed. In that light, I am in agreement with you, and thank you for pointing out to me my lack of understanding in this matter. I glorify God that we can all help each other along the way -it makes my life a little easier. Thank you, and God bless you!

Fr. Averky

Nicholas Stanosheck
20-05-2003, 03:01 AM
Christ is Risen!

I would have to agree. I feel the Orthodox New Testament is the best English Bible out there. It comes in 2 books, that can be ordered (WITH FREE SHIPPING) via these links if anyone is interested. Far superior than the Orthodox Study Bible IMO.

Orthodox New Testament Evangelistarion: The Holy Gospels (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0944359175/yourcatholicmess/)

Orthodox New Testament Praxapostolos: Acts, Epistles, and Revelation (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0944359183/yourcatholicmess/)

In Christ,
-Nicholas
Euphrosynos Cafe (http://www.euphrosynoscafe.com)