Death to the world

[David Galloway]

In the early 90's a group of punk musicians became Orthodox monks who attached themselves to the St. Herman of Alaska Brotherhood in Platina, California. They felt that many of the yearnings that led them to embrace the punk movement(denial of worldly riches, war, and other factors) were in many cases very close to the yearnings that led them into Orthodox monasticism. As such, they wanted to share this conduit with others in the punk movement and self published a zine(underground magazine) called Death to the World.

I've read about this zine on a few websites, but I'd like to buy/read a few issues. It seems as though it is no longer in print(the zine was published in the early-mid 90s). If anyone knows of a source where I can obtain this zine I would be most appreciative.

Sorry if I posted this topic in the wrong forum, but as it dealt with a unique method that a particular group of monks used to challange young people, I thought this was the best place.

[Joseph Lovell]

You might try:

Not of this World Bookstore
553 Mendocino Ave.
Santa Rosa, CA 95405

I may have the zip code wrong, I'm going from memory.

As I understand it, the Brotherhood is now a part of the Bulgarian Archdiocese of the OCA.

As well as selling books, icons, incense, and other items, the bookstore is open to teens and young adults who are in trouble, homeless, etc.

A really good group of people involved. They also run a print shop in Rohnert Park, CA and have amonastery in Forestville, CA.

[David Galloway]

Joeseph, Thanks for the information. As an Orthodox young man(23) this type of thing is of great interest to me. Thank you again.

[David Galloway]

P.S. I apologise for the typo. (spelling of your first name)

[Joseph Lovell]

David,

Until you pointed it out I hadn't noticed it. I'm good at typoing and inventive spelling myself.

I hope that the information is of some use to you. As I wrote, the zipcode may be wrong, but only in the last digit.

Thinking about this group made me take stock of the Orthodox in Sonoma County, CA. We have, counting the above group and the monatery in Forestville, there are 6 Orthodox churches, plus a fair number of people who attend the GOA parish in Novato. A much larger collection of Orthodox than I had suspected. Thank you for asking about that group.

[Stefan Markovich]

God helps.

you can download the first 11 zines, which were created by the 2 monks who wrote the book Youth of the Apocalypse on the site www.desertwisdom.org (http://www.desertwisdom.org) in the Links section;and the official site of the Youth of the Apocalypse outreach community is www.deathtotheworld.com (http://www.deathtotheworld.com) i think that the number 16 of the zine is out by now.

[Anthony]

I had to do a double-take when I saw the title of this thread - I thought somebody had had a really bad day.

[Andrew]

There's a group of young people in Anaheim who now put out the zine, with the blessing of the fathers of Saint Herman Monastery.

[Tom Cook]

I recently heard an interview with a couple of people who run the site and create the zines on Ancient Faith radio - the Illumined Heart podcast ...

http://www.ancientfaithradio.com/podcasts/illuminedheart/

Look for The Last True Rebellion.

It was quite impressive. They seem to be very sincere, obviously very influenced by the writings of Father Seraphim Rose.

The Death to the World quote comes from St Isaac the Syrian ...


"The world is the general name for all the passions. When we wish to call the passions by a common name, we call them the world. But when we wish to distinguish them by their special names, we call them the passions. The passions are the following: love of riches, desire for possessions, bodily pleasure from which comes sexual passion, love of honour which gives rise to envy, lust for power, arrogance and pride of position, the craving to adorn oneself with luxurious clothes and vain ornaments, the itch for human glory which is a source of rancour and resentment, and physical fear. Where these passions cease to be active, there the world is dead; for though living in the flesh, they did not live for the flesh. See for which of these passions you are alive. Then you will know how far you are alive to the world and how far you are dead to it."

- St. Isaac the Syrian

[Fr Raphael Vereshack]

OK- I admit it. I've been reading this thread for days and still don't know, what is or are ZINES?

Thanks.

[Michael Stickles]

OK- I admit it. I've been reading this thread for days and still don't know, what is or are ZINES?

Thanks.

Here's the Wikipedia definition:



A zine—an abbreviation of the word fanzine, and originating from the word magazine—is most commonly a small circulation, non-commercial publication of original or appropriated texts and images. More broadly, the term encompasses any self-published work of minority interest.

A popular definition includes that circulation must be 5,000 or less and the intention of the publication is not primarily to raise a profit.


In Christ,
Mike

[Herman Blaydoe]

MagaZINE became webzine, or ezine, the electronic version of a magazine. These days people don't know whether to call them webzine or ezine or i-zine so now they just say "zine." Sounds "kewl" and "L33t" (hacker-speak for elite).

[Fr Raphael Vereshack]

A popular definition includes that circulation must be 5,000 or less and the intention of the publication is not primarily to raise a profit.

Wow. That would mean most everything the Orthodox read is a zine.



Sounds "kewl" and "L33t" (hacker-speak for elite).

Zank U

[Tom Cook]

Father, Bless,

I think that zines are deliberately crude magazines/newsheets (no colour, fancy graphics etc), comparable to Soviet samizdat. You should be able to mass-photocopy and distribute a zine without any loss of quality.

In Christ,

Tom

[Andrew]

MagaZINE became webzine, or ezine, the electronic version of a magazine. These days people don't know whether to call them webzine or ezine or i-zine so now they just say "zine." Sounds "kewl" and "L33t" (hacker-speak for elite).

Not quite... zines are usually cut and paste xeroxed magazines in black and white. Punk kids like them a lot, and some of them have really big followings. Even with the rise of the internet, I think that has made zines even more popular. Areas with a bigger punk/crust/artsy scenes have a bigger literary presence in this regard, like Olympia, Portland, Berkeley, Austin, or wherever. Death to the World was started by the fathers of St. Herman's. They wanted to put out an advertisement in Maximum RocknRoll, which at the time was a very popular zine, but they were rejected. They started their own zine, and now it has been resurrected.