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Vasilis Kirikos
17-09-2005, 05:21 AM
Have any of you ever heard about people who have had near death experiences haveing had their watches stopping?
Vasilis

http://www.mindspring.com/~scottr/nde/watches.html
NDEers and Watches
After asking 27 NDEers if they wear a watch, about 80% said no. Most say they do not wear watches because they mysteriusly stop working. Some say their watches work fine when they don't wear them. I originally read about this phenomenon in a Melvin Morse, M.D. book ("Transformed by the Light" page 142). I originally thought he had to be crazy when he wrote "One-fourth of a study population that mysteriously stops watches is astonishing, especially compared to the other groups we studied." When I read that, I stopped reading his book. I thought he was being absurd if not lying. Up to that point, I had enjoyed his book. But now I'm a convert. If you know of any NDEers, just ask them two non-leading questions: 1) Do you wear a watch? 2) Why not? The vast majority of NDEers are not aware of this phenomenon and they don't connect their watch problem with their NDE.
Morse says 4% of normal adults and 2% of out-of-body experiencers claim they make watches stop.
At the bottom of this page is an email I received from a non-NDE person who had found this page while searching the internet for an answer to his watch problem.
http://www.mindspring.com/~scottr/end.html

Karl Klimmeck
17-09-2005, 09:22 AM
> Hi Vasilis What is your problem? Let the watch stop or let it go. Ok, if I use a clock, I want it be useful :-) . There are many phenomenes of simultaneousness. I think, the first who look it more scientific was C.G.Jung. The problem starts, if you attach importance to this phenomen as proof for any theory. So, what schould be proofed? Or better, what do you want to proof, what do you want to know, reading this book? About near death experience: Hieromonk Seraphim Rose: The Soul after Death; Metropolitan of Nafpaktos: Life after death.

In Christ

karl

robin
03-10-2005, 09:35 AM
Dear Vasilis,
I thank you for your interesting thread on watches stopping. Watches have always had an early demise when I wear them. When I put in a new battery it speeds up the time for a while and then dies within a couple weeks. They usually last 6 mths to a year initially. I try now to only wear watches with plastic backs or where the metal does not contact my skin. I have a central nervous system disease. I also had a high (105 degree) temperature as a child, an out of body experience, and almost died in a surgery.
I have noticed alot of intolerance on Monachos lately. It is disappointing-I miss Father Averky.
Sunny