Mina of Alexandria
26-09-2006, 02:55 PM
hello,
It's Mina Mounir after converting officially to Eastern Orthodoxy.
I was asking about the point of theosis,
there are two types of understanding theosis in the bible :
1) we are partakers of the divine nature , through Uncreated energy ( metropolitan George Khedr of Lebanon, Gregorgy Palamas and others)
2) we are partakers of the divine nature through a created energy ( as the catholic famous theologian Thomas Aquinas mentioned)
3) we are partakers of the divine nature through obey and good will , and santification.
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I have a different view point,
since the tools of deification is baptism and Eucharist , and since we believe that baptism gives you the Holy spirit itself , and since we believe that the body and blood of our lord in eucharist is united naturally ( Katha Physis - Hypostasin) with the divine nature-Essence ... we can say that we bear the essence , but in conjoining and bearing not more i.e. not like what happened in christ , because christ had a full unity and not just conjoining or bearing of the divinity. besides, we bear divine essence through bearing Christ himself .
I remember I read in the book ( Christ is one ) of pope Cyril of Alexandria that the meaning of conjoining and bearing which Nestour mentioned was suitable for us not for christ. I think this what I understand from this sentence of this great doctor.
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Is there a strong resource on that point covers these ideas?
in Christ,
Mina Mounir
It's Mina Mounir after converting officially to Eastern Orthodoxy.
I was asking about the point of theosis,
there are two types of understanding theosis in the bible :
1) we are partakers of the divine nature , through Uncreated energy ( metropolitan George Khedr of Lebanon, Gregorgy Palamas and others)
2) we are partakers of the divine nature through a created energy ( as the catholic famous theologian Thomas Aquinas mentioned)
3) we are partakers of the divine nature through obey and good will , and santification.
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I have a different view point,
since the tools of deification is baptism and Eucharist , and since we believe that baptism gives you the Holy spirit itself , and since we believe that the body and blood of our lord in eucharist is united naturally ( Katha Physis - Hypostasin) with the divine nature-Essence ... we can say that we bear the essence , but in conjoining and bearing not more i.e. not like what happened in christ , because christ had a full unity and not just conjoining or bearing of the divinity. besides, we bear divine essence through bearing Christ himself .
I remember I read in the book ( Christ is one ) of pope Cyril of Alexandria that the meaning of conjoining and bearing which Nestour mentioned was suitable for us not for christ. I think this what I understand from this sentence of this great doctor.
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Is there a strong resource on that point covers these ideas?
in Christ,
Mina Mounir