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Peter Farrington
18-01-2007, 05:16 PM
I am a big fan of Terry Pratchett, the UK fantasy-satire writer. In fact there was a pretty good two part adaptation of one of his books on TV over Christmas.

I am re-reading one of his books and in it there is a character who is from a rather fundamentalist country and is a minor cleric who can't resist giving out tracts. Anyhow, in a brief discussion about sin another character says something to the effect...


Sin is when you treat someone as a thing, and that includes yourself.

Now Terry Pratchett has never struck me as a Christian writer, not anti-Christian either, sometimes anti-religiosity.

But I have been thinking about this and it seems rather a profound insight. I am wondering now who universal a working description of sin this is. Certainly I could describe much of my own sin in this way. It seems to me to make sin a personal matter. I am sinning against a person, even myself, and God and others.

What do others think? I am quite sure it does not say all that can be said about sin, I know quite a lot of what the Fathers say. But it seemed a good insight, especially for a non-believer. I wonder if others have to hand some quotes from the Fathers speaking of the personal nature of sin.

I wonder now how such a thought could be used evangelistically, and if it is a more widely held understanding among the agnostic masses around us.

Peter

Elzabet
18-01-2007, 06:13 PM
I'm a fan of Terry Pratchett myself. And I think I agree--to a point. If you use someone for the fulfillment of your own selfish desire how is that loving your neighbor? And if you do the same to yourself, how is that loving yourself? I don't recall that line but I think it might be a good jumping off point.

Herman Blaydoe
19-01-2007, 04:38 PM
The Greek word for "sin", I am told, means "missing the mark". When an archer misses the target, he has "sinned". Is he "bad" for not hitting the target? Should he be "punished"? Well, if the target is an enemy striving to kill him, the consequences of his "sin" will become evident soon enough. If he was merely in a contest, he will not receive the prize.

But we, as Christian warriors, do not want the enemy to kill us spiritually, and the Apostle Paul, who must have been a sports fan, tells us that we strive for a spiritual prize that does not perish. If we "miss the mark" that God has set, we sin, and suffer the consequences.

How this applies to Terry Pratchett, I have no idea but thought it worth throwing out there.

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Elzabet
19-01-2007, 04:59 PM
This is off topic but I love that disclaimer! I use it myself elsewhere. Back to your regularly scheduled thread...

Mary Emily Hamilton
14-12-2007, 10:52 AM
That Terry Pratchett has been diagnosed as suffering from a rare form of early Alzheimer's

http://tinyurl.com/2wwdbj

Sorry to be the bearer of sad news....

Mary Emily

Anthony
14-12-2007, 01:26 PM
That is sad news. I also like Terry Pratchett's books (actually I have discovered them here in Germany, where he seems to be very popular).

One exchange I particularly like (quoting from memory, sorry) is the following. One particularly obnoxious character has died, and meets the character Death and recognizes him. "So is this the bit where all my life passes before my eyes?" he asks.

"No," replies Death, "that's the bit that you've just had upto now. Now comes the bit where you have to see your life as it has been experienced through everybody else's eyes."

Mary Emily Hamilton
14-12-2007, 01:38 PM
I had only just heard of Mr. Pratchett, so I haven't read any of his books, but from his own personal announcement of this sad news http://tinyurl.com/29xdot it sounds like he's a strong, brave person.

Best wishes,

Mary Emily