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Ok - this is an extremely silly question and has absolutely nothing to do with orthodoxy or maybe it does. There's a link here that shows me who's online when I'm online. There's always a few people, but more than people, there are spiders! Different kinds too -Yahoo seems to send Slurpy Spiders! What are they slurping up? Then there's some spiders from google and other places. But what on earth do spiders want with orthodoxy? There's one slurpy spider that's interested in the Christian's relationship to the world!
I didn't know there were Christian spiders. I'm feeling kinda leery of the slurpy ones... I dont' even like normal ones. :o
In Christ,
Mary.
Ok - this is an extremely silly question and has absolutely nothing to do with orthodoxy or maybe it does. There's a link here that shows me who's online when I'm online. There's always a few people, but more than people, there are spiders! Different kinds too -Yahoo seems to send Slurpy Spiders! What are they slurping up? Then there's some spiders from google and other places. But what on earth do spiders want with orthodoxy? There's one slurpy spider that's interested in the Christian's relationship to the world!
I didn't know there were Christian spiders. I'm feeling kinda leery of the slurpy ones... I dont' even like normal ones. :o
In Christ,
Mary.
Ok... then I have to send you my picture with a spider on my arm. Really! :)
Ok... then I have to send you my picture with a spider on my arm. Really! :)
All right then, go ahead, scare the wits out of me. See if I ever speak to you again!
Trudy
13-02-2007, 02:35 AM
I'm feeling kinda leery of the slurpy ones... I dont' even like normal ones.
Whoa! Very cool! I didn't know there was a way to view who was on line all at the same time! And it shows what they are doing! :)
Mary, I'm with you...I'm not crazy about spiders either. Especially having been bit by a brown recluse spider which required a visit to the emergency room! That was nasty! :(
Love, Athanasia
Fr Raphael Vereshack
13-02-2007, 02:43 AM
Ok - this is an extremely silly question and has absolutely nothing to do with orthodoxy or maybe it does. There's a link here that shows me who's online when I'm online. There's always a few people, but more than people, there are spiders! Different kinds too -Yahoo seems to send Slurpy Spiders! What are they slurping up? Then there's some spiders from google and other places. But what on earth do spiders want with orthodoxy? There's one slurpy spider that's interested in the Christian's relationship to the world!
I didn't know there were Christian spiders. I'm feeling kinda leery of the slurpy ones... I dont' even like normal ones. :o
In Christ,
Mary.
Hey, what's going on here?! Most people don't begin to see the spiders until around the 4th Week of Great Lent! :)
In Christ- Fr Raphael
Mary, I'm with you...I'm not crazy about spiders either. Especially having been bit by a brown recluse spider which required a visit to the emergency room! That was nasty! :(
Love, Athanasia
I haven't been bit by a spider. But I've heard a tarantula scream. I know, spiders aren't supposed to scream, I was supposed to do the screaming, but I sort of freeze up and can't get any sound out when I'm supposed too. I've even stared at snakes without screaming.
Army ants aren't spooky to look at, but I'm turned out to be seriously allergic to them. My husband freaked out, when I calmly told him I was having trouble breathing and I could feel my air passages tightening even as I spoke, and I was probably having a serious allergic reaction to the bite, and if Sharon didn't have an antidote, I'd stop breathing soon....
Sharon's shot hurt more than the bite.
Mary.
Hey, what's going on here?! Most people don't begin to see the spiders until around the 4th Week of Great Lent! :)
In Christ- Fr Raphael
LOL. That's hilarious! I should remember that around the 4th week of Lent, watch out spiders!
Mary
LOL... you guys! :)
Mary please PM me with your email address, if you would like me to send it to you. You will not be scared... try to see it and beat the arachnophobia away! How you say it here 'Conquer your fear!'
I took some Java programing and we could point at classmates and everyone else and see what they were doing on the system we used (it was called 'finger' command). I guess the same concept is here at 'who is on line'. Spiders maybe are those who find monachos through the search engine google, yahoo etc. and those who are not logged on. (This is how I found monachos. I googled religious questions and monachos showed up first.. I always found good advise and decided to finally check it out and register.)
However, maybe I am wrong so please do not hesitate to correct.
LOL... you guys! :)
Mary please PM me with your email address, if you would like me to send it to you. You will not be scared... try to see it and beat the arachnophobia away! How you say it here 'Conquer your fear!'
Actually, I like being rescued, better than conquering. Think Spiderman will rescue me from the spiders? After all, of all things related to spiders, he's my favorite. :)
Mary
Rebecca Gabl
13-02-2007, 02:58 PM
Fr. Raphael reminded me of an experience I had in 2005. It was Holy Saturday evening, around 10. I was at a monastery. I decided to go to my room and rest a while before the service. So I went in there, and right above my bed, on the ceiling (and it was a low, slanted ceiling), was this HUGE French tarantula. :eek: Okay, maybe it wasn't a tarantula, but it was the size of one, and had thick, black legs. Perhaps a last pre-Paschal iskushenie by the devil! I did not try to rescue it. I beat it to death. I hope that wasn't too much of a sin!
Herman Blaydoe
13-02-2007, 04:20 PM
Spiders are programs that crawl around the web gathering information. For Google and Yahoo, they visit websites and gather up key words to put in their search databases. They look for sites that have changed and so on.
M.C. Steenberg
16-02-2007, 01:24 AM
What an amusing little thread!
Of course, Herman is quite right: 'spiders' (or 'web-crawlers') are little pieces of internet software that scan the internet to power search engines, links references, etc. The 'Who's On-Line' feature of the forum often shows a number of spiders, scanning their way through the archives to fuel Google, Yahoo, etc.
INXC, Matthew
The thought of things crawling around gives me the weeby-geebies! Even online ones. I wonder if they tickle the computers. Sometimes my computer just freezes up and wont' budge, sort of like it's curled up tight trying to protect it's belly... :)
Thank you, Herman and Matthew. I didn't think I'd understand even if it was very well explained, but you've both done a great job. Now, I understand... so that's how, whenever I want to check something out and type in a key word into the search thingy, several pages worth of websites show up that have those key words in them... I'm guessing these spiders can't get into private messages? Like the PM on here, and my e-mail and so forth? Or do those also show up, but just in the very last pages that the search engine pulls up that I never get to...?
Mary.
Thank you, Herman and Matthew. I didn't think I'd understand even if it was very well explained, but you've both done a great job. Now, I understand... so that's how, whenever I want to check something out and type in a key word into the search thingy, several pages worth of websites show up that have those key words in them... I'm guessing these spiders can't get into private messages? Like the PM on here, and my e-mail and so forth? Or do those also show up, but just in the very last pages that the search engine pulls up that I never get to...?
Mary.
Mary,
The spiders can visit your email only if you let them to. Like the spider on my pic for example. ;) :) :) :)
Seriously, I do not think they can crawl in your email, PM messages etc. and make public those meant-for-private-only correspondences.
However Herman, Matthew or anyone who is an expert, please feel free to contradict me.
Herman Blaydoe
16-02-2007, 05:14 PM
Spiders are not supposed to go where permission has not been specifically granted. Unless you keep your private files in a publically and consistantly accessible space, they are not cataloged. However, posts in public fora are certainly "fair game". You might be amazed at what those persistant little electronic arachnids will turn up. It doesn't hurt, once in a while, to "google" yourself, just to see where you pop up and what past "sins" could come back to haunt. Unlike Las Vegas, what happens on the 'Net does not always stay on the 'Net. But unless specific spyware has been surreptitiously installed on your own computer, personal information stored in private places is generally safe from the benign searchbots. Interestingly enough, these sorts of little programs are technically referred to as "daemons", but that doesn't sound much better than spiders, does it?
Safe computing is always recommended, especially if you have a broadband connection. Firewalls, properly configured, are a necessity along with good antivirus software (unless you have a Macintosh) to keep the less benign spiders out.
M.C. Steenberg
16-02-2007, 05:38 PM
For clarification: public posts on any forum (including this one) are indexed in search engines.
Private messages are just that: private, and not accessible to the 'spiders', etc.
INXC, Matthew
Spiders are not supposed to go where permission has not been specifically granted. Unless you keep your private files in a publically and consistantly accessible space, they are not cataloged. However, posts in public fora are certainly "fair game". You might be amazed at what those persistant little electronic arachnids will turn up. It doesn't hurt, once in a while, to "google" yourself, just to see where you pop up and what past "sins" could come back to haunt. Unlike Las Vegas, what happens on the 'Net does not always stay on the 'Net. But unless specific spyware has been surreptitiously installed on your own computer, personal information stored in private places is generally safe from the benign searchbots. Interestingly enough, these sorts of little programs are technically referred to as "daemons", but that doesn't sound much better than spiders, does it?
Safe computing is always recommended, especially if you have a broadband connection. Firewalls, properly configured, are a necessity along with good antivirus software (unless you have a Macintosh) to keep the less benign spiders out.
Herman this is of course informative, but with a hilarious twist. :) I wonder what Mary will say about "daemons".
While reading your post, I was thinking about the embarrassment people would feel during the Second Judgment, when all our sins will be revealed. Fathers keep reminding us about that moment.
Leah C. Cowan
16-02-2007, 07:20 PM
LOL. Of all the wonderful theological discussions on this forum, this is the one I understand the most! :o I tried, and still sometimes try to make a living doing internet marketing, and have learned a little about how "spiders" work. The reason they are called spiders is because they crawl ALL over the place looking for whatever they are looking for. Like in God's creation, there are good ones and bad ones. For instance, if you notice the ads on the right hand side of the page (I assume they are AdWords), they just always seem to be on topic of what the thread is about. That is Googles Spiders trying to make sure their advertisers get shown in the right places. They also determine to a point how far up the search a website shows up. So techniquely, the more you use the word "Orthodox" or "Christian", the higher up the scale we go.(I think) Individuals or marketers can also buy software to do the same thing to "spy" on the keywords that work best for their competition. Too bad thay can't eat bugs and viruses though. :D
Leah
Oh my! And I thought I was in over my head on the 'wolves and sheep' thread!
I was telling my priest this morning that I love orthodoxy because it's like living in a fairy tale! But I forgot about the bad magic in the fairy tales. I think I've found it! It seems that any thread I start that has living creatures in the title, comes to life, and gets me into trouble!
Help Fr Raphael! First it was spiders and now I'm being hunted by daemons and Lent hasn't even begun! I don't think I'll make it to week four...
Mary
For instance, if you notice the ads on the right hand side of the page (I assume they are AdWords), they just always seem to be on topic of what the thread is about. That is Googles Spiders trying to make sure their advertisers get shown in the right places.
Leah
Ok, Leah, so I took your advice and looked at the ads on the right hand side of the page. I don't know if everyone's page is different, but on mine there were two ads... One was for spider traps and the second one is an invitation to become a monk or a nun!! Now what do monastics have to do with spiders? Does it have something to do with what happens in the 4th week of Lent?? :)
Mary.
Fr Raphael Vereshack
16-02-2007, 11:42 PM
Ok, Leah, so I took your advice and looked at the ads on the right hand side of the page. I don't know if everyone's page is different, but on mine there were two ads... One was for spider traps and the second one is an invitation to become a monk or a nun!! Now what do monastics have to do with spiders? Does it have something to do with what happens in the 4th week of Lent?? :)
Mary.
Believe it or not a few weeks ago an add appeared on the page I was reading about whether I wanted to be a Baptist minister. :)
In Christ- Fr Raphael
John Charmley
17-02-2007, 02:18 PM
Believe it or not a few weeks ago an add appeared on the page I was reading about whether I wanted to be a Baptist minister. :)
In Christ- Fr Raphael
Dear Fr. Raphael,
So, it is not just in Ethiopia then? (See the thread 'Wolves in Sheep's clothing?')
Persistent these Baptists - although, since my eldest son is a Baptist pastor, perhaps I should find a more charitable expression?
In Christ,
John
Fr Raphael Vereshack
17-02-2007, 06:36 PM
Dear Fr. Raphael,
So, it is not just in Ethiopia then? (See the thread 'Wolves in Sheep's clothing?')
Persistent these Baptists - although, since my eldest son is a Baptist pastor, perhaps I should find a more charitable expression?
In Christ,
John
Because it's so cold up here we might want to reverse that: "sheep in wolves' clothing." ...or something like that :)
In Christ- Fr Raphael
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