Unicode

[Anthony]

Just trying something out - please ignore me.

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[John Wilson]

Ὅτε οὖν ἠρίστησαν, λέγει τῷ Σίμωνι Πέτρῳ ὁ Ἰησοῦς Σίμων Ἰωνᾶ, ἀγαπᾷς με πλέον τούτων; λέγει αὐτῷ Ναὶ Κύριε, σὺ οἶδας ὅτι φιλῶ σε· λέγει αὐτῷ Βόσκε τὰ ἀρνία μου. λέγει αὐτῷ πάλιν δεύτερον Σίμων Ἰωνᾶ, ἀγαπᾷς με; λέγει αὐτῷ Ναὶ Κύριε, σὺ οἶδας ὅτι φιλῶ σε· λέγει αὐτῷ Ποίμαινε τὰ πρόβατά μου. λέγει αὐτῷ τρίτον Σίμων Ἰωνᾶ, φιλεῖς με; ἐλυπήθη ὁ Πέτρος ὅτι εἶπεν αὐτῷ τὸ τρίτον Φιλεῖς με· καὶ εἶπεν αὐτῷ Σὺ οἶδας Κύριε πάντα· σὺ γινώσκεις ὅτι φιλῶ σε· λέγει αὐτῷ ὁ Ἰησοῦς Βόσκε τὰ πρόβατά μου. Προενήρξατο τῶν ἄλλων ὁ Πέτρος καὶ πρὸς αὐτὴν, ὡς ἐοικὸς, τὴν διὰ τοῦ σκάφους ὀλιγωρήσας ἄφιξιν, διὰ τὸ τῆς εἰς Χριστὸν ἀγάπης ἀσυγκρίτως θερμὸν καὶ ἀξιοζήλωτον. διὸ καὶ πρῶτος ἄνεισι καὶ ἕλκει τὸ δίκτυον· εὐπερίστροφος γὰρ ἀεί πως ἦν ἄνθρωπος, κεκεντρωμένος οὐ μετρίως εἰς τὴν ἐπὶ τὸ δρᾶσαί τε καὶ εἰπεῖν προθυμίαν.

[Olga]

Nice try, John, but polytonic Greek is difficult, if not impossible, to transplant into an email message. I learnt that years ago.

[Peter Farrington]

I see all the accents OK.

Peter

[Anthony]

I find the browsers on most machines I use are pretty selective about which scripts they support. Here's to more consistent Unicode support, for the benefit of all Orthodox languages*. (The original test in this thread, most of which I later deleted, found Georgian coming out OK but not, for example, Amharic.)

* shorthand, of course, for "languages traditionally in common use in Orthodox countries and cultures".

[Olga]

The REAL test would be to post Church Slavonic successfully - using a true Old Slavonic font (such as Irmologion and Orthodox) with all the accents and abbreviations, not the copycat Cyrillic fonts dressed up to look like the real thing. :D

[Michael Stickles]

Probably a matter of installed fonts on the viewer's computer.

The forum stylesheet is set up to use the following fonts, in order:

verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif

I know on my machine sans-serif will show the accents, but verdana, lucida and arial don't. Since verdana is the first choice, I don't see the accents.

[M.C. Steenberg]

I have to say that John's accented Greek appears just fine on my browser (being IE 6, and IE7, as well as Firefox 2.2).

INXC, Matthew

[Anthony]

just playing around

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[Anthony]

just playing around

Λόγος

[Anthony]

While messing around I have noticed that the Unicode chart for Cyrillic seems to lack the "I-A ligature" (as distinct from ѧ, or modern Russian Я). This seems weird, and I have presumably made a mistake somewhere. Unfortunately my browser doesn't have all the right fonts, and I would be grateful if anybody could help out.

[Anthony]

To answer my own ignorant question, it seems that unicode identifies the I-A ligature with the modern Cyrillic я.

[Anthony]

Sorry to continue the monologue, but I contacted the Unicode Consortium about this, and have found out that a proposal to change this (N3194R if anybody's interested - it includes some other recommendations as well) has already been "accepted for encoding and processed". The new I-A ligature is called the IOTIFIED A and is encoded at A656 and A657 (capital and small). In decimal that is 42582 and 42583.