John 20.21-24: Jesus sending the Spirit

[Deanna Leonti]

21 He said therefore to them again: Peace be to you. As the Father hath sent me, I also send you. 22 When he had said this, he breathed on them; and he said to them: Receive ye the Holy Ghost. 23 Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.

21 dixit ergo eis iterum pax vobis sicut misit me Pater et ego mitto vos 22 hoc *** dixisset insuflavit et dicit eis accipite Spiritum Sanctum 23 quorum remiseritis peccata remittuntur eis quorum retinueritis detenta sunt 24


Is this where the Latin Rite church get the filoque?
www.drbo.org/index.htm

[M.C. Steenberg]

Dear Miss Leonti,

The answer is essentially 'no'. The fact that the Son sends the Spirit is simply scriptural testimony, and is reflected on as such in many patristic writers from the very first (and at times in history has formed part of the Orthodox response to the filioque).

The 'interior logic' that lead to usage of Filioque to describe the relation of the Father, Son and Spirit, was primarily the trinitarian exegesis of the fourth and fifth centuries, in which it was used as part of one paradigm for describing the unique nature of each of the persons of the Trinity. Unfortunately, this means of addressing the issue was fraught with its own issues and problems, which formed part of the core of the later 'East-West' disputes.

XB, Dcn Matthew

[Deanna Leonti]

Dear Miss Leonti,

The answer is essentially 'no'. The fact that the Son sends the Spirit is simply scriptural testimony, and is reflected on as such in many patristic writers from the very first (and at times in history has formed part of the Orthodox response to the filioque).

The 'interior logic' that lead to usage of Filioque to describe the relation of the Father, Son and Spirit, was primarily the trinitarian exegesis of the fourth and fifth centuries, in which it was used as part of one paradigm for describing the unique nature of each of the persons of the Trinity. Unfortunately, this means of addressing the issue was fraught with its own issues and problems, which formed part of the core of the later 'East-West' disputes.

XB, Dcn Matthew


Thank You for your time in answering.

how sad...still...between East & West


Deanna

[Paul Nurmi]

The times God, through St. Paul, referred to the Holy Spirit as "the Spirit of His Son" (Galatians 4:6), or "the Spirit of Christ" (Romans 8:9), always seemed to provide a pretty solid basis for the filioque. As far as I could tell, that seemed to be the clearest scriptural basis for that addition to the Creed in the Western Church.

In our risen Lord, Paul Nurmi