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Michael Stickles
28-07-2008, 12:05 AM
Title: The Mountain of Silence
Author(s): Kyriacos C. Markides
Publisher: Image (Doubleday), New York, NY, 2001
ISBN: 0-385-50092-0
Pages: 256
Sub-Genre: Spiritual Counsels; Orthodox Life
Price: $12.95
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Description: From Publishers Weekly: "Markides, a Maine sociologist who was raised in the Greek Orthodox faith and later drifted into agnosticism, continues his spiritual journey homeward in this collection of captivating conversations with the monk Father Maximos. The book is set on the island of Cyprus, where the author and his monastic mentor spent extended periods of time together due to unexpected circumstances that moved Father Maximos from the "Holy Mountain" of Mount Athos. Markides (Riding with the Lion), his interest piqued by an earlier pilgrimage to Mount Athos, used a sabbatical from the University of Maine to further explore the body of Christian mysticism that Mount Athos's monks have preserved since the ninth century. Here, Markides and others pepper the charismatic Maximos with questions on a wide range of topics from angels, saints and demons to the role of icons in worship and the place of hell in Christian belief. Markides is a skillful and skeptical inquisitor whose queries surely must have tried the patience of his mentor. But Maximos rises to the occasion, providing gentle, thoughtful answers that by necessity often transcend the Western mind's reliance on logic in spiritual matters. Markides's work is an excellent resource for spiritual seekers of all levels, answering questions about Christianity in general and Eastern monasticism in particular. It will be of special interest to those who may be unaware of Christianity's deep roots in mysticism."

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Michael Stickles
28-07-2008, 02:04 AM
I almost put this book back on the shelf after reading the first couple of pages. The author, Kyriacos C. Markides, starts by speaking frankly of his disillusionment with his childhood faith (Greek Orthodoxy), his falling into agnosticism, and his interest in spirituality being revived by several years investigating mystics, practicing Transcendental Meditation, and reading the works of numerous Eastern mystics and occultists. When he begins to speak of his experience visiting Mt. Athos, he compares it to what he found in other Eastern religions, saying Athos "is like a Christian equivalent of Tibet" and that the hermits he met were "like Christian yogis".

Fortunately, I kept reading. Markides does not really change this way of looking at things, but the book is not about him or his views; instead, it focuses on the teachings and stories he received from the monk who became his mentor: Father Maximos, a disciple of Elder Paisios of Mount Athos. And while I had worried initially that Markides might paraphrase Father Maximos' words and mix into them his own yogic-inspired understandings, he instead prefers to quote Father Maximos verbatim (he tape-recorded many of their conversations), presenting a good number of dialogues between Father Maximos and himself as well as others whom they both met.

Most of the teachings of Father Maximos' which Markides relates are in answer to questions raised by Markides himself (or sometimes by others), and include discussions of topics such as: monasticism and its place in today's world; what it means to know God; illnesses of the heart; various kinds of logismoi, or negative thoughts, and how to deal with them; the difference between icons and idols; the activities of demons and of angels; the difference between human ideas of justice and divine justice; and much more. He also includes in several places Father Maximos' rememberences of Elder Paisios and the extraordinary events he experienced or heard about in connection with him.

This book is a treasure of spiritual teachings and stories, and is one that I go back and reread periodically. Every time I reread it, I find something new in Father Maximos' teachings. To me, the discussions of logismoi and prayer by themselves were more than worth the price of the book.

In Christ,
Michael

Kosta
28-07-2008, 03:03 AM
I agree with Michael's assessment. If you read this great book, just remember not to take the authors views and opinions into account, I sometimes feel like taking a pen and crossing out some of what the author says, it would simply omit false logic on his part. What the monk- Fr. Maximos teaches on the other hand is extraordinary.

Alice
28-07-2008, 11:15 AM
I loved this book. The saintly Father 'Maximos' is now a Bishop in Cyprus. I pray that I might be able to meet him and get his blessing one day.

In Christ,
Alice

Ken McRae
03-08-2008, 12:59 AM
Markides does not really change this way of looking at things, but the book is not about him or his views; instead, it focuses on the teachings and stories he received from the monk who became his mentor: Father Maximos, a disciple of Elder Paisios of Mount Athos.

Thanks for both an interesting and reassuring review. I too recently purchased this book, along with the sequel, (Gifts of the Desert,) but have not yet read either of them, apart from dipping in here and there. Perhaps his spiritual vision is renewed by the end of the sequel. If it is'nt manifesting some kind of visible transformation by then, I will feel compelled to reassess his spiritual relationship with Fr Maximos. Perhaps Markides does'nt really view Fr Maximos as "his" spiritual mentor? And has merely assumed that posture as a convenient literary device.

Antonios
03-08-2008, 08:10 AM
Perhaps Markides does'nt really view Fr Maximos as "his" spiritual mentor?

Dear Ken,

I think it is impossible to know this truly, since such a thing is only known by God, but from my reading of the book, my opinion for what its worth is that he really does regard him as his spiritual father.

In Christ,
Antonios

Marie-Duquette
03-08-2008, 01:51 PM
Dear Ken,

I think it is impossible to know this truly, since such a thing is only known by God, but from my reading of the book, my opinion for what its worth is that he really does regard him as his spiritual father.

In Christ,
Antonios


The only way to truly know if Fr. Maximos is Mr. Markides' spiritual Father is to ask him. Speculations only lead to misinterpretations, as far as I can understand this.

marie+duquette

John W.
21-02-2009, 01:51 AM
The only way to truly know if Fr. Maximos is Mr. Markides' spiritual Father is to ask him. Speculations only lead to misinterpretations, as far as I can understand this.

marie+duquette

In 2006, I had the pleasure of hosting a visiting monk from Mount Athos. I had recently finished this book and told him how much I enjoyed it.

His face darkened and he said, "Throw it in the trash NOW! The book is plani!"

How that for a review?

What else could I do? This was a monk from the Holy Mountain waiting for me to throw the book in the trash! I chucked it.

He told me that he had visited the now-Metropolitan Athanasios and asked him about Markides. According to this monk, this upset the Metropolitan who sadly told him, "Markides is NOT Orthodox!"

Robert (Cyril) Brown
21-02-2009, 03:38 AM
I have to admit that as much as I enjoyed this book, it was very awkwardly written. The author seems to go out of his way to present his former beliefs compared to his illumination by his experiences with Fr. Maximos.

Still a good book and it would be a great pick for an Orthodox small book discussion group.

Cyril

Michael Stickles
23-02-2009, 08:56 PM
In 2006, I had the pleasure of hosting a visiting monk from Mount Athos. I had recently finished this book and told him how much I enjoyed it.

His face darkened and he said, "Throw it in the trash NOW! The book is plani!"

How that for a review?

I can't help but wonder - if a book were made containing only Fr Maximos' sayings and stories from Mountain of Silence, would the monk have still considered it plani, or was it just Markides' commentary that caused him to describe the book that way? I think most of us who enjoy and re-read the book start to automatically blip over Markides' thoughts to get to the next gem from Fr Maximos.

Michael

Salaam Yitbarek
16-10-2009, 08:59 PM
I've read it several times, I've given away several copies, and I wish everyone had one!

And my dream would be to have the Metropolitan Athanasios visit our church for some lectures.

I just wanted to point out that Markides' question and answer style actually has some advantages. He asks the common questions that others have asked us and that sometimes we ask ourselves and presents Father Maximos the opportunity to answer these questions. This is great for evangelization and apologetics. I've sent this book to doubters, and it has had a profound effect.

David Robles
16-11-2009, 12:27 AM
I love this book! I have read it 4 or 5 times. Fr Maximos is Metropolitan Athanasios of Limasol, Cyprus ( before his crowning as bishop) . And I was rapt by his teaching. This is the book's greatest asset.

Kyriacos exposition of other spiritual disciplines besides the Orthodox faith is at times too heavy. I guess since the book is Kyriaco's conversion story, this dwelling on and on on other things, is unavoidable. I have listen or read reviews that make the point of a serious flaw, the book presents Christianity as a spiritual discipline comparable to but not necessarily superior to other eastern disciplines. An emphasis on Christ and the dogma of the Church is missing throughout the book, except of course in the understanding of 'Fr Maximos'. I reread the book after being made aware of this criticism and I'm afraid I have to agree.

Notwithstanding this fact, the book is very much worth reading.

Theophrastus
19-11-2009, 10:02 PM
For those who are looking into Orthodoxy, and who are coming from an Indic (Hindu, Buddhist, Jain, Sikh, Tantric) or Sinic (Confucian, Daoist) or Tibetan (Vajrayana, Bon) perspective, this book can reveal a Christianity that has not ignored the practice of meditation and contemplation.

Andrew D. Morrell
10-03-2010, 09:30 PM
With so many unimpeachable things to read by the Fathers as well as studying scripture, even a slightly "bad" review will cause me to ignore a book. Additionally, most of the books I've loved and been blessed by have been given to me by people I trust and love, (<SMILE> usually my wife). So this book, the Mountain of Silence, has never been of interest to me.

Last week, after we had a discussion about Elder Porphyrios , the priest-monk at the nearby men's monastery went to his cell, came back and handed me a copy of this book with the same advice written in some above posts: ignore the author's opinions.

I skimmed it that night and the first thing I read was an account of an event in the life of Father Arseny. (The book, "Father Arseny, 1893-1973: Priest, Prisoner, Spiritual Father"
moved my heart towards Orthodoxy in a way no friend's words had.) Then I read this: "The perfected human being is that person in whose heart there is room for everybody." Father Maximos. Who? Then, some more skimming: "... the name of Jesus Christ for the believer is like a high fortress-wall that gives the soul the strength to resist harmful influences from outside." Elder Sophrony, quoted by Fr. Maximos when discussing the Jesus prayer. I was drawn in.

It covers a lot of ground: prayer, monasticism, sexuality, etc. As an example, the author asks ""So, what kind of methodology did the holy elders invent to master the logismoi?" Father Maximos answers. (I just threw that in because of the recent logismoi discussion).

The book - actually, the words of Father Maximos - has been a blessing to me. It's very easy to ignore the authors voice/opinions... and I hope the he one day comes to know and embrace the Truth he has been blessed to hear so intimately.

I will read it often and shared it with many. (<SMILE> I'm not a critic, this is just a stream of consciousness opinion)

In Christ,
Andrew

Dora Aivaliotou
25-04-2010, 09:10 PM
Father Maximos of the Mountain of Silence is my spiritual father. As you know he is Metropolitan Athanasios of Limassol, Cyprus.
I talked to Gerontas Athanasios a few days ago about your discussion on the Mountain of Silence and he told me to tell you that what one should concentrate on the book is the teaching of Father Maximos because that has been handed down from his experience with many wise and saintly gerontes on Mount Athos. One should not mind Kyriakos comments because that is just his style. This style of his makes the words of Father Maximos even more crystal clear! He also told me to tell you that the book is definitely NOT PLANI!

Marie-Duquette
25-04-2010, 11:29 PM
Thank God for your affirmation that the book MOUNTAIN of SILENCE is not "plani" as some on MONACHOS fear! I like your comment that the words of Father Maximos are made more crystal clear by Kyriakos style of writing. The teachings of Father Maximos are, at least for me, today a treasure made available to us modern Orthodox Christians. thank you, Mrs. Dora Alvaliotou for your kind words. I hope that you will continue to be part of this Forum.

marie-duquette

Rick H.
26-04-2010, 12:26 AM
Thank God for your affirmation that the book MOUNTAIN of SILENCE is not "plani" as some on MONACHOS fear!



What I like about the author of Mountain of Silence is that he clearly does not write from a spirit of fear (or timidity). Yes, thanks Mrs. Alvaliotou for this contribution and welcome to the forum!

Alice
26-04-2010, 02:19 AM
Father Maximos of the Mountain of Silence is my spiritual father. As you know he is Metropolitan Athanasios of Limassol, Cyprus.
I talked to Gerontas Athanasios a few days ago about your discussion on the Mountain of Silence and he told me to tell you that what one should concentrate on the book is the teaching of Father Maximos because that has been handed down from his experience with many wise and saintly gerontes on Mount Athos. One should not mind Kyriakos comments because that is just his style. This style of his makes the words of Father Maximos even more crystal clear! He also told me to tell you that the book is definitely NOT PLANI!

Dear Dora,

How blessed you are to have Bishop Athanasios as your Spiritual Father! I heard him speak as a guest of a church in Athens, and also I hear him speak weekly on the Piraiki Ekklisia website. I love his style and his thoughts...and cherished the Mountain of Silence as one of my favorite books!

Xristos Anesti!
Alice

Andrew D. Morrell
26-04-2010, 05:49 AM
Thank you for your affirming message from your spiritual father, Mrs. Alvaliotou.

<SMILE> Very interesting timing: I literally had the book on my lap as I read your post a few minutes ago (using my blackberry) intending to read it after scanning Monachos.

Ok, clearly I have some reading to do.

In Christ's love,
Andrew


Father Maximos of the Mountain of Silence is my spiritual father. As you know he is Metropolitan Athanasios of Limassol, Cyprus.
I talked to Gerontas Athanasios a few days ago about your discussion on the Mountain of Silence and he told me to tell you that what one should concentrate on the book is the teaching of Father Maximos because that has been handed down from his experience with many wise and saintly gerontes on Mount Athos. One should not mind Kyriakos comments because that is just his style. This style of his makes the words of Father Maximos even more crystal clear! He also told me to tell you that the book is definitely NOT PLANI!

Nektarios
19-02-2011, 08:59 PM
Loved this book. Friend of mine sent it to me in Afghanistan. I ready it 3 times.
The authors other book riding the lion was horrible though. love

Dennis McFarland
04-07-2011, 06:12 AM
I have read this book and found much to chew on. I have reread the book a few times and have lent it to others so they could read it as well. I just my bok case ans see that my copy never made it back to me. I pray that the person who has has derived much benefit from it.

Dana Pope
25-07-2011, 12:17 PM
I went into this book blind, not knowing what to expect. Several people from my parish gave it rave reviews. My interest was piqued. I would have to agree overall with the reviews above. I would not just place this book in someone's hands without a cautionary note. Ultimately, because it has proven to be so popular, I am glad I read it. It wouldn't be my first choice on a book list with so many other good (some great) books out there.

Rob Bergen
04-10-2011, 04:55 AM
Hello all!

I had the privilege of meeting and getting to know Kyriacos Markides through the Greek Orthodox Church of St. George in Bangor, Maine (http://www.stgeorge.me.goarch.org/). He is a wonderful man, and, may I add, adds a wonderful baritone to the Divine Liturgy! Kyriacos is passionate about his religion. He is a devout Orthodox, and his book has truly influenced many. The book is not meant to be taken as the personal journey through the Orthodox faith as taken by Kyriacos, but indeed is to be understood as the revelation of the Orthodox faith to the skeptic. I know, I was once with Kyriacos, as a skeptic. But now, I can truly tell each and and everyone of of you, that it is through this experience that Kyriacos has indeed embraced the path to Christ, he is indeed a faithful servant and Orthodox.

Albion
05-10-2011, 09:58 PM
He is a devout Orthodox, and his book has truly influenced many.

I am so pleased to hear that, as there has been much discussion of this over the years. And I must say I am not surprised that he eventually took the plunge. Kyriacos' book played a key role in my becoming Orthodox, and for that I shall always thank him. Parenthetically, Bishop Athanasios is the spiritual father of mine, so although I have never met him, I feel that his wisdom is coming to me indirectly.

Dennis Justison
14-10-2011, 02:08 PM
I had been searching for a faith/spirituality that had "gusto" or something that I could really sink my teeth into. I had grown tired of just going to church and repeating mental doctrine. What is belief good for if it doesn't affect a person's life and those around him/her? I don't really remember why I purchased The Mountain of Silence, except that I must have thought it would give me an eye into the life of a typical Orthodox Christian. This book woke me up like no other book. It has deepened my faith: both the one believed and the one that others see lived. I am on the road to joining the Orthodox Church. ONe thing that has made a lasting impression is that more, than any other Christian faith, I see Orthodoxy as more than beliefs, but there is an "Orthodox Way." There is a life of fasting, praying, and almsgiving that is unique amongst the Orthodox. To me, it makes it more real and authentic. Certainly, not all Orthodox are like Fr. Maximos, but for me, peering in from the outside, when I see people fasting, showing up for Liturgy, and DOING and LIVING some of the teachings of the Church, it definitely inspires me to continue on my journey into the Church. I'd also encourage everyone that they can influence people like me just by smiling at strangers at Divine Liturgy and helping them find their place and to invite them to sit with you for breakfast. That makes Orthodoxy more than something read in a book. Peace to all.

Rick H.
14-10-2011, 02:42 PM
What a great post Dennis! I love this book too for the very reasons you have stated. It had a very positive influence on me.

Yes, "gusto." He doesn't mess around and he is not motivated by fear in any way shape or form. Those who might wish to do a paper on the shape and dimension of fear in Eastern Orthodoxy today will come up completely empty if they try to reference this book.

Even in the first sentence of his Prolegomena he sets the tone:

"When I arrived in America in the early sixties for my higher education, I brought with me a naive faith in the Christian religion, the Church, and the God of my forefathers and grandmothers. It was a taken-for-granted faith based on an upbringing within the insulated and homogeneous confines of Eastern Orthodoxy . . ."

There are two good book titles right there, "A Naive Faith" and "A Taken-For-Granted Faith." Or, maybe one should be the sub-title of the other.

This book is not for those with a spirit of timidity or a spirit of fear. But, for all others it is a must read.