R. Murray
28-10-2008, 04:14 AM
Dearest Brothers and Sisters in Christ,
I seek your counsel on the use of the phrase "The Holy Family"
What is your understanding of the Holy Family? Is it Jesus, Mary and Joseph? or something else.
Is the phrase is used the above mentioned context is it accurate? Is there a Holy Family?
If we look at Matthew 1:19 (New King James Version) "19 Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not wanting to make her a public example, was minded to put her away secretly."
Joseph is referred to as Mary's Husband
There is a footnote in the Study Bible referring the the term "Her Husband":
The bible calls engaged couples husband and wife before their Marriage. Thus Joseph is called the husband of Mary, and Mary is called his wife. In the Church Joseph is remembered as the Bethrothed, pointing out Mary's "Ever Virginity"
The passages that are used to support this foot note were: (note the use of the words espoused and wife)
Rachel was called the wife of Jacob before their Marriage by virtue of their engagement
Genesis 29:21 "21 And Jacob said to Laban, Give me my wife, for my days are fulfilled, that I may go in to her."
Deuteronomy 22:23,24 "23 And if there be a young damsel espoused to a man, and a man should have found her in the city and have lain with her; 24 ye shall bring them both out to the gate of their city, and they shall be stoned with stones, and they shall die; the damsel, because she cried not in the city; and the man, because he humbled his neighbour’s spouse: so shalt thou remove the evil one from yourselves."
Esther 2:7 "7 And he had a foster child, daughter of Aminadab his father’s brother, and her name was Esther; and when her parents were dead, he brought her up for a wife for himself: and the damsel was beautiful."
From I understand there is no Husband and Wife in Joseph
and Mary and therefore there is no Marriage.
With no marriage there is no Family?
Which begs the questions: Can Jesus, Mary and Joseph be called "Family" or "Holy Family"?
It is apparent that the phrase is used, probably more so in the West.
Where did it originate? Where did the tradition originate?
Is using the Phrase "Holy Family" labeled as Heretical?, Wrong?, or Misguided?
Any input, help, guidance or commentary would be appreciated.
In Christ
Ruairi
I seek your counsel on the use of the phrase "The Holy Family"
What is your understanding of the Holy Family? Is it Jesus, Mary and Joseph? or something else.
Is the phrase is used the above mentioned context is it accurate? Is there a Holy Family?
If we look at Matthew 1:19 (New King James Version) "19 Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not wanting to make her a public example, was minded to put her away secretly."
Joseph is referred to as Mary's Husband
There is a footnote in the Study Bible referring the the term "Her Husband":
The bible calls engaged couples husband and wife before their Marriage. Thus Joseph is called the husband of Mary, and Mary is called his wife. In the Church Joseph is remembered as the Bethrothed, pointing out Mary's "Ever Virginity"
The passages that are used to support this foot note were: (note the use of the words espoused and wife)
Rachel was called the wife of Jacob before their Marriage by virtue of their engagement
Genesis 29:21 "21 And Jacob said to Laban, Give me my wife, for my days are fulfilled, that I may go in to her."
Deuteronomy 22:23,24 "23 And if there be a young damsel espoused to a man, and a man should have found her in the city and have lain with her; 24 ye shall bring them both out to the gate of their city, and they shall be stoned with stones, and they shall die; the damsel, because she cried not in the city; and the man, because he humbled his neighbour’s spouse: so shalt thou remove the evil one from yourselves."
Esther 2:7 "7 And he had a foster child, daughter of Aminadab his father’s brother, and her name was Esther; and when her parents were dead, he brought her up for a wife for himself: and the damsel was beautiful."
From I understand there is no Husband and Wife in Joseph
and Mary and therefore there is no Marriage.
With no marriage there is no Family?
Which begs the questions: Can Jesus, Mary and Joseph be called "Family" or "Holy Family"?
It is apparent that the phrase is used, probably more so in the West.
Where did it originate? Where did the tradition originate?
Is using the Phrase "Holy Family" labeled as Heretical?, Wrong?, or Misguided?
Any input, help, guidance or commentary would be appreciated.
In Christ
Ruairi