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Mina Mounir
28-11-2008, 02:08 AM
hello

how does the Orthodox church see the Catholic teaching about the worship of " the heart of Jesus" ?
I found on the link : http://www.holytrinitymission.org/books/english/dogmatics_pomazansky.htm#_Toc514547769
that it is not comfortable with the Orthodox Christology.

Paul Cowan
28-11-2008, 02:32 AM
Mina,

Is there something specfic (like short) in this huge article you are asking us to look at?

Herman Blaydoe
28-11-2008, 02:54 AM
hello

how does the Orthodox church see the Catholic teaching about the worship of " the heart of Jesus" ?
I found on the link : http://www.holytrinitymission.org/books/english/dogmatics_pomazansky.htm#_Toc514547769
that it is not comfortable with the Orthodox Christology.

There is no counterpart or equivalent to either of the cults of the "Sacred Heart of Jesus" or the "Immaculate Heart of Mary" in the Orthodox Church. These are definitely on the list of improper iconic images.

This focus on one part of our Lord’s physical body effectively separates the worship of the human nature of Christ from His Divine Nature; the Orthodox Church, teaches us to worship the Lord in His Divine-human unity, not in each of the natures separately. Orthodoxy maintains a more restrained and objective devotional approach to the Lord, avoiding sensuality, sentimentality, and emotionalism.

Christopher Dombrowski
28-11-2008, 05:41 AM
Ultimately, the object of our worship should always be God in His person (whether this be the Father, the Son, or the Holy Spirit). This may be done through certain portions of Him, such as if we were to find the foreskin of Jesus, we could worship His person through it. But to worship the actual segment of His nature is essentially to succumb to the heresy of Nestorianism in our worship.

Mina Mounir
28-11-2008, 01:47 PM
Mina,

Is there something specfic (like short) in this huge article you are asking us to look at?
sorry , u will find it specifically : http://www.holytrinitymission.org/books/english/dogmatics_pomazansky.htm#_Toc514547780
On the Latin cult of the "Heart of Jesus."

In connection with this decree of the Council it may be seen how out of harmony with the spirit and practice of the Church is the cult of the "sacred heart of Jesus" which has been introduced into the Roman Catholic Church. Although the above-cited decree of the Fifth Ecumenical Council touches only on the separate worship of the Divinity and the Humanity of the Saviour, it still indirectly tells us that in general the veneration and worship of Christ should be directed to Him as a whole and not to parts of His Being; it must be one. Even if by "heart" we should understand the Saviour’s love itself, still neither in the Old Testament nor in the New was there ever a custom to worship separately the love of God, or His wisdom, His creative or providential power, or His sanctity. All the more must one say this concerning the parts of His bodily nature. There is something unnatural in the separation of the heart from the general bodily nature of the Lord for the purpose of prayer, contrition and worship before Him. Even in the ordinary relationships of life, no matter how much a man might be attached to another — for example, a mother to a child — he would never refer his attachment to the heart of the beloved person, but will refer it to the given person as a whole.




thank you

Kusanagi
28-11-2008, 01:50 PM
hello

how does the Orthodox church see the Catholic teaching about the worship of " the heart of Jesus" ?
I found on the link : http://www.holytrinitymission.org/books/english/dogmatics_pomazansky.htm#_Toc514547769
that it is not comfortable with the Orthodox Christology.

yoinked from the site- which answers your question.

On the Latin cult of the "Heart of Jesus."

In connection with this decree of the Council it may be seen how out of harmony with the spirit and practice of the Church is the cult of the "sacred heart of Jesus" which has been introduced into the Roman Catholic Church. Although the above-cited decree of the Fifth Ecumenical Council touches only on the separate worship of the Divinity and the Humanity of the Saviour, it still indirectly tells us that in general the veneration and worship of Christ should be directed to Him as a whole and not to parts of His Being; it must be one. Even if by "heart" we should understand the Saviour’s love itself, still neither in the Old Testament nor in the New was there ever a custom to worship separately the love of God, or His wisdom, His creative or providential power, or His sanctity. All the more must one say this concerning the parts of His bodily nature. There is something unnatural in the separation of the heart from the general bodily nature of the Lord for the purpose of prayer, contrition and worship before Him. Even in the ordinary relationships of life, no matter how much a man might be attached to another — for example, a mother to a child — he would never refer his attachment to the heart of the beloved person, but will refer it to the given person as a whole.